What do Liberal Party of Canada Executive VPs do in their spare time?

Mike, I don't wish bad things on people. But in this case, you're just going too far. You maybe right, this may be an inappropriate comment. But talk about bad karma.

Want to ruin the reputation of a prominent member of the community because of an off-the-cuff remark? Well, you'll see what comes to you.

My turn.

PWNED!

Great work Mike and Kate! Those Liberals sure are getting desperate. They are also rude, and their language is juvenile. Wonder how smart Don feels now?

Easy to see this Don Beemer guy as the type that fights against the rights of the unborn and against raising of sexual age of consent to 16 from 14.
The liberal party is sure filled with alot of creeps and nuts. the rot inside the party is much deeper than imagined. Thanks for shining the light of knowledge on these types. Let hope shame does the rest but I doubt there is much honour left in the shell of a party.

And let's not overlook the fact that what appears to be unlike Dion, Harper's got a dick.

After bending over for Chretien for thirteen years maybe he's just jealous.

Perhaps Don Beemer's employer should be informed exactly how appropriatley their IT resources are being used by one of their employees during work hours.

You forgot to mention I have a goldfish named Petey.

Well, glad to see that you're worried enough to be checking in.

Yes Donny Boy, let's see what will happen when your employer finds out how you are using company ttime and resources.

This should be sent to Harper, all the media outlets, and ecspecially the National Post and the Toronto Sun.

Even better, this should be sent to every media outlet in Canada to prove just how goofy the Liberal Party of Canada really is.

This Don Beemer guy is a wanker.

Brock, do everything you can to get this out there.

Why isn't Paul Martin being grilled about what he knows and when he knew it and his roll in supressing info until now? Especially considering the advanced copy of the Cadman book he received.

Oh yea just you wait Mike Brock, just you wait! KInsella, BigCityLib & Cherniak, men with stellar reputations for honesty & fair dealings will be here soon to settle your hash!

I mean I'm pretty sure sure they'll be by soon to defend Beemer's butt.

Well it is the weekend after all, you know family and all that.

Warren? BCL? Cherniak? Hello? Hello...oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I just sent an e-mail to Jory Capital wishing them well on having such an outstanding employee.

Don, for future reference, the spelling is "sepArate" not "sepErate."

When you're typing in your blog and a red line appears under a word, it's usually spelled incorrectly. There are exceptions for British spelling but in this case the word has uniform English spelling.

For the record, I think even less of the Liberal Party knowing they would elevate to high office, someone such as yourself who engages in public profanity. You deserve to be defenestrated.

Well, that settles it. No investments from Jory Capital coming from me.

Maybe I'll phone into CJOB when Jory hosts one of their horrible paid-for programs on the weekend, and ask the host about the conduct of the VP of Potty Mouths.

Golly, I don't recall you folks getting this worked up when someone at PCO wrote to me that he didn't "give a shit" about pro-Nazi vandalism. Hmmm.

Perhaps you just didn't see it. I await your expression of outrage on that one, too.

I don't see how you arrived at the conclusion that the Don who left the comment is this Don Beemer.

Paul MacPhail wins the comment contest hands down. ROFL.

Gee Warren, why would anyone "give a shit" about something you found while taking one? Seems to me that if a kid penning a swastika on a poophouse wall gets you so bent out of shape, you're not long for this world.

But, by all means, man. Keep ridding the world of racist dump-takers. The reward will be ours, in more way than one.

By Robert McClelland on March 1, 2008 2:10 PM

I don't see how you arrived at the conclusion that the Don who left the comment is this Don Beemer.

I hate agreeing with Robert McClelland, who I think is... well... anyway... but likewise, what proof is there this is Don Beemer?

You could be right. You're probably right. But you damn well better be right.

I don't see how you arrived at the conclusion that the Don who left the comment is this Don Beemer

I assure you, I did proper due diligence before posting this. Some of that was including, but not limited to sending out some emails to organizations he was apparently a member of to confirm his personal email of [OMITTED].

Also, on his blog many of his commenters refer to him as "Beemer".

When I sent an email to Don Beemer asking him if he was the one who made the comment, he simply responded with "Threatening me mikey?"

So, yes, I'm sure it's Don Beemer.

That's a good answer, Mike. You sold me.

Well, Don Beemer of Jory Capital, Better Business Bureau of Manitoba, and the Liberal Party of Canada talks like a juvenile. A foul-mouthed juvenile.

Fair enough, Mike. I just wanted to be sure you weren't pulling a Chernyuk.

Mike Brock,

I consider it in bad form to publish your commentator's email address. If nothing else, by virtue of it being published here in plain text, it's likely to attract the attention of spam bots. I believe you should redact it or at least put it in the form of an image.

Cristoph,
If Don Beemer now gets a little spam on his Hotmail account, I think that may be the least of his worries, but I agree that one shouldn't feed the spammers.

Is this really the best way to win a flame war? Is outing someone's private identity really that big a thrill? Do we really want to follow Kinsella's example and start searching out everyone's "secret" identity?

I laughed pretty hard when BCL got outed for his outrageous comments on Jews, and I was pretty tickled by Red Tory's outing simply because he's a pompous ass with too much time to read his thesaurus. But I'm beginning to think it has become too much of a blood sport and to what end? So a Liberal VP is a dick with a potty mouth? Who'd have thunk it? And going after his place of work is low. Do you really think the IT guys or HR care if Dick Lib takes 5 minutes of his day to browse a blog? And if they do, is that comment really worth attacking his livelihood? Come on guys, we're supposed to be better than that. The Conservative party was supposed to be better than than the Liberals. Let's not become them.

I don't have a secret identity. People I work with know this is my blog. I use my real name.

Why do people need to have secret identities to hide behind? I think that's the question. You're complaining about me busting apart the anonymity of Liberal Party Executive VP, and one might ask, why would he need that anonymity?

Oh I know why he needs it! So he can post rude, inappropriate comments, and insult people (like me) whom he disagrees with, and not have have it attributed back to his good name.

What a terrible thing I've done... outing someone like that.

Priceless. Simply priceless.

Burn!

Hi, Don! Caught publicly talking about other guys' dicks again, I see... shame on you. Wonder what your bosses will think? (Oh, the Liberals will just laugh, but the others...???)

Yep. A shining example of the Liberal Party of Canada. Accusing people of fellating the Prime Minister.

Classy gentleman!

What a terrible thing I've done... outing someone like that.

If some stranger on the street directed a rude comment at you would you try to discover is identity? Would you then pass it on to the retards that you know so they could harass the guy at work?

Rat is right. Don't sink to the level of people like McMillan, Janke, Chernyuk and Kinsella.

Well Robert, that's a great question. The answer is no, I wouldn't try to discover the identity of someone for an insult on the street. Well, it would depend on the insult, I guess.

I don't go out of my way to out the identity of every nasty commenter on my blog. There was one of particular viciousness that I just deleted the other day.

In the case of Don, here. I had seen a "Don" in many places throughout the blogosphere over the past few months, often saying rude and inappropriate things. His suggestion that *I* was fellating Stephen Harper, got me interested in who he might be.

I eventually discovered his blog, where I discovered mountain-loads of his bile.

He emailed me back only to ask if I was threatening him.

I would also note, that given his demeanor he doesn't seem to care he's been outed, based on his comment here.

I just don't understand why people think it's "low" for me to reveal this guys true identity. Why isn't it "low" of him to hide behind anonymity and post comments as such? I'll be honest with you: If he was not a senior member of the Liberal Party, I would not have outed his identity.

If this had been the other way around, you know the Liberals would be hammering this home in question period like there was no tomorrow, demanding the Conservatives ask for a resignation, etc.

I'm with Brad B.

The person in question wrote: “One wonders how Brock can bear to seperate [sic] Harper's dick from his mouth long enough to eat?" For Pete's sake, how difficult is it to get the grammar and spelling correct for a 17 word message?

For the record, this is a statement, not a question. Therefore a period, not a question mark, would do.

Can’t the Liberals do anything right?

It's not low to expose a secret identity, Mike. It's low to expose this guy's real life to dememted wackos like Rob C above who says he sent an email to Beemer's employer for no other reason than he insulted you.

"It's not low to expose a secret identity, Mike. It's low to expose this guy's real life to dememted wackos like Rob C above who says he sent an email to Beemer's employer for no other reason than he insulted you."

Why would a grown, supposedly mature man, put himself into such a precarious position whereas it would be embarrassing to his employer?

I note he was using a company computer when he posted the message.

"...supposedly mature man..."

Where'd you get that from?

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"I don't see how you arrived at the conclusion that the Don who left the comment is this Don Beemer."
By Robert McClelland on March 1, 2008 2:10 PM

good lord, bobby... that's not exactly the gold standard of intellectual perception, is it?

i mean, i could write a book about all the stuff that you apparently don't understand.

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Interesting
My take on this is that when your a public figure, as Don Beemer/ LPC executive VP; then your actions taken on/within a public venue/blogsite become property of the public domain.Hence you open yourself up to public scrutiny which could either be praise or derision.
But hey its a free world and the choice was Don Beemer's,except in his case he appears to have gotten caught playing 'nom de plume'.
As for pointing out his foibles to his employer...well if ya can't take the heat...

just my take on this

I cannot believe the childish actions of Liberal Bloggers, after reading the puss filled rantings of Kinsella and onto BCL (who I though was a female, or should be he/she uses the word Giggle so much she can't possibly have balls). Liberals use profanity to get their point across, what Classical Liberal would vote for a party who's representing bloggers repeatedly call females cunts or makes snearing comments against females as Kinsella does.

Frankly I'm printing off every single piece of filth and libel they write and mailing the entire package to my Liberal MP, I'm disgusted by what these so called adult Male Liberals write.

Anonymity is something I really appreciate (of course) because at times I don't want to have to discuss politics with people I work with. Sure, I write things I wouldn't normally say, and maybe I should dial it back, but as McLelland said, I wouldn't track down someone who insulted me in public. That Beemer is a senior Lib does make some difference but still, I am finding this hunt more and more distasteful.

Kinsella opening comments seems to me to be the ultimate honey trap; comment and let that bugger track you down if you don't agree with his every pronouncement. I am afraid we might get as bad. It's not that I pity Beemer so much as it may put a chill on open, useful discussion. Again, Kinsella comes to mind.

For those of you who think you can't comment anonymously in terms of hiding your IP address, I have this advice:

Proxy surfing.

Google it and get started! Drive Kinsella nuts (oh, wait...)!

I suspect a number of Liberals and fellow travelers are hunting down information on public proxies.

The whole anonymous posting routine is a matter of personal choice. If you want to post under an alias fine; but your anonymity is not guaranteed and if you post vile material you will almost certainly be outed.

As various people are finding out, it is actually quite difficult to conceal your identity online. A forum post here, an email there and pretty soon your IP is out in the open.

Wonder if I should feel threatened by Don Beemer?

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/canadiansentinel/7411635697822335637/#243907

It is him. Confirmed. Proof saved.

What is he doing?

for those whom think it BAD to expose this senior lieberal A-hole, I ask, what does the liberal party do??????

well it is part of our government, and was the ruling entity that sent our soldiers to war, porely equiped because of THEIR neglect, now I demand that people involved in sending our young soldiers to war be manture, and conduct themselves accordingly.

don't ask me to be tolerent of fools who hold the lives of other's in their hands!!!!!!!!

Here's the thing. I repeated this on my own blog. I almost give Mike Brock a passing grade on this one, even though I think it's kind of juvenile. This Don guy sounds like a sock puppet and he got burned. However, the real kicker is that Mike Brock offers the option of "anonymity". There is no disclaimer, but I think there is a fair assumption that the blog owner will not reveal your personal information under the confidence of the anonymity. Mike Brock betrayed that confidence as a site owner, which is more or less unusual for a person running a website to do over an innocuous, albeit intellectually retarded comment. So what Mike Brock has done is shown to people who comment here is that their anonymity isn't going to be honoured. I also give marks to Mike for emailing Don and trying to clarify things, but I'm sure the temptation to out him at this point was far too strong. I mean, what with Kate McMillan now involved and ready to send 8,000 hits this way.

I suppose it's not that I have a problem with the "outing" so much as I see it as the fact that Mike Brock can't be trusted with the information he is able to gather as a webmaster of the site and has shown he is fully prepared to disclose personal information. I know I don't have anything to hide, but this may well serve as a warning to others not to comment here because they, too, may be "outed" by detective work.

"Here's the thing. I repeated this on my own blog. I almost give Mike Brock a passing grade on this one, even though I think it's kind of juvenile. This Don guy sounds like a sock puppet and he got burned. However, the real kicker is that Mike Brock offers the option of "anonymity". There is no disclaimer, but I think there is a fair assumption that the blog owner will not reveal your personal information under the confidence of the anonymity. Mike Brock betrayed that confidence as a site owner, which is more or less unusual for a person running a website to do over an innocuous, albeit intellectually retarded comment. So what Mike Brock has done is shown to people who comment here is that their anonymity isn't going to be honoured."

Funny that you should write that, Raphael. I was elsewhere when the exact same thought occurred to me and I came back to write it. You beat me to it. What's more, you put it better.

*looks up defenestration*

Oh, goodness. Harsh. Can't wait to wedge that into a conversation. Saw that in Braveheart.

Funny how it seems to be the so called progressives who are upset at this clown being outed.

Also it funny how its the same people who tend to use this gutter language.

I post anonymously because I like to say some outrageous things that I don't particularily want some people to know. But I don't cross the line of slander/libel,gross/vulgar language.

Besides, most blogs that are moderated just delete the vulgar ones anyway so you are just wasting your time.

Horny Toad

Sign in to comment on this entry, or comment anonymously.

I guess it depends on what the meaning of the word or is.

Horny Toad, Raphael has a conservative blog and I'm a CPC supporter, including of Prime Minister Harper. I've complimented Brock on his recent work against Jason Cherniak's smears. I agree with Mike about his opinion on Don Beemer, who seems to be truly an immature ass. Etc.

And I'm typing this comment under the words, "comment anonymously" which Brock, as the webmaster, allows to be here. These words were here when Don Beemer commented.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Raphael, Christoph.... Couldn't disagree more.

"anonymity" only goes so far. Suppose it was someone talking about a crime. Terrorists planning one? Which would carry a duty to report to authorities.

Society is wrapped up in a conflict between privacy... and public duty. Crimes are committed, and people are punished. The resulting punishment is public names and all for those who care to find out.

The same works in everyday life. You do something stupid, you deserve to get hurt. Jump off a tall building? step in front of a moving vehicle? kick the wall with your bare foot. You do something stupid, you are going to get hurt.

Dealing with the public carries with it a duty to act responsibly. Don didn't. He did something stupid. He didn't come to this blog to argue. He didn't add to the debate. What he did was engage in a personal attack (on the owner no less). And it wasn't just a "your an __hole" post. He questioned the relationships and sexuality of the person in question. He did something stupid. He got outed doing it. He is going to get hurt.

Finally we are not dealing with Joe blow in his parents basement. We are dealing with a public figure in an organization that (hopes) to lead the country. Do you want someone with that maturity and thought pattern in that job? While the partisan attacks we have seen in the last 5 years on both sides and bogus scandal allegations based on at best fabrications line the news, people still do things like this. I don't know why. But while politicians are subjected to such, shouldn't they be above it? Shouldn't they try to avoid such problems instead of seeking them?

I say again. Don did something stupid. He got outed doing it. He is going to get hurt. His post was not something a remotely reasonable person would have done..... That in my mind means any guarantee either stated or just implied.... is moot.

Oh, way to go, Brock, you fascist.

I think you're coming off the spool again. Will it be a 48-hour or a 72-hour "hold" this time?

Raphael, you've taken an interesting position.

I don't recall any denunciation when Kinsella publicly disclosed the identity of a person who sent a private email.

The case here with Don is significantly different. He chose to put his comment in a privately owned forum, but for public view. He did so without providing information that would allow the reader to properly attribute the comment to a name. In the same way I "outed" Warren Kinsella for posting anonymous comments on my blog that insinuated I indulge in beastiality, I'm sure many bloggers retain the right to expose any "graffiti artist" who chooses to smear our sites, regardless of who they are.

I don't have any problem with bloggers or commentors who choose anonymity - until they use it as a shield to demean, threaten or lie about others. Then, as they say - "you pays your money, you takes your chances".

I don't have any problem with bloggers or commentors (sic) who choose anonymity - until they use it as a shield to demean, threaten or lie about others.

Heh. Is she for real? 99.9% of her commenters do exactly that. We've all seen the lavishly-documented exposés at countless venues that focus on the discourse featured at Small Dead Minds.

She really needs to pull herself together. Her decline in the last while has been most tragic.

"Suppose it was someone talking about a crime. Terrorists planning one?"

Barcs

This isn't, now, is it?
 

"I don't recall any denunciation when Kinsella publicly disclosed the identity of a person who sent a private email."

Kate

Under what conservative principle is Don Beemer collectively responsible for the actions of Warren Kinsella?

Don read the words, "comment anonymously" which Mike Brock allowed to remain here immediately above the comment form. Then he commented. Then he was outed.

"Under what conservative principle is Don Beemer collectively responsible for the actions of Warren Kinsella?"

I guess the concept of a comparative example is a little over your head.

Yes, after going through my IP logs and with some research assistance from Kate McMillan, I tracked down Don's true identity, after his posted this comment on my blog.

Hmmm...be interesting to find out what this "research" entailed. She does have some rather louche connections, after all.

Hope she didn't break any laws. That would be bad.

I get it. Warren Kinsella was wrong to publish a private email. And I agree.

Using the same comparison with the added fact that Mike Brock -- whose work I both like and respect -- has the words "comment anonymously" above his comment form, can we not state this was also an error in judgment?

I didn't even catch the problem right away. I had to think about it later to understand my discomfort with how this was handled. My original impulse was to slap his and your backs.

So I understand completely why it may not have occurred to Mike at the time that perhaps this wasn't the best thing to do. Or maybe he still thinks it was. I don't know.

Two points:

1) LOL, pwned.

2) You were right in this instance, Mike, but I'd hate to leave the judgement of what is and isn't right to the whims of bloggers of varying character. There are rolls of bloggers, and then there are normal people who like to read about politics - I believe you refer to us as "spineless anonymous" commentors - who comment in good faith but wisely don't reveal personal information on the internet. We tend not to get ripped off in identity theft scams and such.

If a blogger gets the facts wrong, and I or any other person corrects them on it, we normal people are not the trolls in this equation, at least in theory. In practice, bloggers seem to feel "entitled" to publish whatever they want and label anyone outside of their tiny circle who calls them on it a troll, or spineless. In short, the quality is bad, and it is apparently by design.

So, good call on nailing Don, but are you gonna nail me too if I point out you got some facts wrong?

You know, Ti-Guy, it sounds like you've been drinking.

I really hope you're not drinking and driving. That would be a criminal offense.

See? I can play Progressive Drive-By just as well as you can!

"Hope she didn't break any laws. That would be bad."

I doubt very much they would have had to break any laws to get this info. Web logs give you a fair amount, and they confirmed it with emails, etc.

In British Columbia, there might be a privacy law issue with the disclosure of the gathered information since their law is fairly aggressive. That might apply even if just Don Beemer was based in BC. In Ontario, I don't think it's a problem nor in Manitoba. I'm not sure where Brock is based.

As a layman, the only legal issues I can see are wrongful interference with employment, and most likely that would only apply to people who contact his employer, or a contract violation. In other words, "comment anonymously" immediately above the comment form and submit button may form a contract when Don Beemer gave his valuable consideration, in the form of commenting and adding content to this site.

However, I can't see him arguing this in court and neither can you. The, "as a Liberal Executive VP in Manitoba, I have to right to talk in public anonymously about felating the Prime Minister defence" is probably not one he wants to make.

To alleviate further confusion: the word "anonymous" has been stricken from the comment form.

We've all seen the lavishly-documented exposés at countless venues that focus on the discourse featured at Small Dead Minds.

In enters Ti-Guy, king of the "progressive" trolls. His favorite toilet bowl, Canadian Cynic, must have a break in the line tonight. Poor little fella just can't seem to get flushed.

"Do you really think the IT guys or HR care if Dick Lib takes 5 minutes of his day to browse a blog?"

As a former IT person who worked in the fifth largest staffing company in the world, I can tell you for certain that neither the IT folks or the HR folks want to see that kind of invective spewed onto the Net using company resources. Harrassment of a private citizen (potentially libel here) could legally rebound on the employer if Mike went looking for damages in a court of law.

"And if they do, is that comment really worth attacking his livelihood?"

Only a complete tool would post something like that from a work computer. And, yes, in all of the large employers I've worked for, what this fellow supposedly did (I've not examined the evidence personally so I can't -- and won't -- claim he did for certain) would most likely consider this a firing offence.

Google "Dooce".

So, just for fun, I am now commenting anonymously. I am not going through the proceedure of typing in Jay Currie - or "Don" or "Lucy" or "90sareover" - or giving my email or website. Let's see what happens....

Ah, well what happens is that I get to pick a made up name and use an unconfirmed email addy. I can pretend not to be me. Has Mike promised that he will not reveal my true identity? Nope. He has merely made a statement that if you want you can sign in - under a fake name if you feel like it - or you can not "sign in" but rather "comment anonymously" except, and this is a Movable Type thing, you have to provide a name and email addy. Now, whether you tell the truth when you do so is entirely up to you. If you choose to lie, your call.

Mike nowhere represents nor warrants that he will make any attempt at all to keep your actual identity secret. Commenting here is at your own risk as it is on virtually any blog which allows comments.

So, to coin a phrase, suck it up Don.

Mike, you're lame,
and have no tact,
this whole post
you should redact,
If you had
a gram of class,
You'd move from sucking,
to kissing Harper's bum.

Perhaps somewhat o/t, but still related to the topic, so FWIW:

You know, it appears to me that an entirely new person has assumed the identity of the nasty "Ti-Guy". I recall when this identity was rather inarticulate and infantile.

Now... "Ti-Guy" sounds a LOT like a fellow who also goes by the moniker "Balbulican". (I know that fellow's real name and placy of employ, BTW). The writing style and personality apparent are so close...

I guess "Balbulican" is afraid to come here as such for some reason, so he assumes the other moniker.

Oh, "Ti-Guy", congratulations on your conversion. ;) See, it IS possible!

Mike...can you "out" Sentinel please and post his workplace coordinates (KKKate has personal emails from him, so it should be a doddle)? I've just been accused of sock-puppeting and I'm quite upset.

This outrage cannot go unpunished.

Mike,

I saw Red Tory's post about you at his blog.

You may want to know that he got into a flame war with another blogger, and actually called the police/tried to lay criminal charges.

And here he is chiding you for outing someone on your own blog.

Love it.

"Out me"? That's funny coming from "Ti-Guy", who's supposedly, at least in character, "out". Trust me; it's not the same guy playing this character now as I recall from before.

You know, as I'm by no means a public figure and don't hold any sort of position within the CPC or anything like that, as I'm just a regular guy, a perfect nobody, and am too valuable to be booted from my highly specialized, very rare job over simply having a blog in which I render my two cents in a spirited manner, I'm not worried about anyone discovering my name and saying, "Hey, the CS is Johnny Conservative". I have nothing to fear, so go ahead...

Public figures like Don, on the other hand, should be much more careful what they say online. Because THEY have a lot to lose, unlike myself.

Besides, I do plan to eventually become self-employed or semi-self-employed, utilizing the skills I have and have been honing during my time as the Sentinel... so any publicity will only help me. Just look at folks like Ann Coulter, Mike Savage, Rush Limbaugh... so go ahead, make my day... :)

I don't think it's enough that this filth was outed. How about a mass email blast going out to all of Jory's clients? And members of the Board of Trade? And the Hong Kong Business Association?

If this idiot is stupid enough to do what he did, then he should be completely exposed. Skip the flame wars, go for the jugular - scorched earth.

By Canadian Sentinel on March 2, 2008 6:11 AM

You know, it appears to me that an entirely new person has assumed the identity of the nasty "Ti-Guy". I recall when this identity was rather inarticulate and infantile.

Now... "Ti-Guy" sounds a LOT like a fellow who also goes by the moniker "Balbulican". (I know that fellow's real name and placy of employ, BTW). The writing style and personality apparent are so close...

I guess "Balbulican" is afraid to come here as such for some reason, so he assumes the other moniker.

Wow, you think Balb is Ti-Guy? You think their writing style and personality are similar? Is this a joke?

"Just look at folks like Ann Coulter, Mike Savage, Rush Limbaugh"

This new gig of yours would be low end political hunour would it? Because Ann, Mike and Rush are nothing but a bad joke, at best

FYI, Zorph, more people listen to the likes of Ann, Mike, Rush, etc. than listen to most or all Leftist pundits/commentators.

They are so influential that Leftwing extremists and fascists literally try to take their rights away to prevent them from expressing themselves any further, which is their right as much as it's the right of any Leftwing extremist! Leftists don't want us to have the same rights, and this is undeniable, seeing how they move to take them away from us! You don't see the Left try to take rights away from Islamic fascists on the streets of America who hold up horrible signs like "Behead so and so" and "Islam will dominate...", so you folks are also hypocrites.

Not to mention that Leftists get away with viciously defaming identifiable groups with whom they disagree or whom they hate. Like Christians, Jews, Israelis, etc. Your ilk is getting away with that! And you're fine with it. Nice.

Folks like yourself just can't handle the truth that you're not necessarily correct in the way you view the world. You can't handle this, so, like Don Beemer, you try to intimidate us, make us feel bad somehow. And that's shameful.

Awwww, Ti-Guy, muffin.

Are you upset that yet another one of your vicious, cowardly anonymous troglodytes got outed?

Poor baby.

Good on you, Mike. Regardless of what those who lack the courage or moral acumen to stand up to bullies may think, welcome to the right side of the line in the sand.

So, just because a lot of people listen to them makes their opinions and view points right?

"Folks like yourself just can't handle the truth that you're not necessarily correct in the way you view the world. You can't handle this, so, like Don Beemer, you try to intimidate us, make us feel bad somehow. And that's shameful."

I hardly think Ann's, Rush's, Savage's or your view point is anywhere close to the truth. Yet you have every right to waste your brain cells on them if you like. People like Rush and Ann are no different than Mike Moore. You take what they say with a huge bag of salt.

I'm sorry Canadian Sentinel that you find me so "intimidating" Honestly, I'm a reallt nice guy in person. And if you are feeling bad, well that isn't me, that might that inner voice that is trying to tell you to stop being such a wanker,... maybe you listen to that voice a little more.

Well Mike, nice job outing another Liberal Party pervert. I always find it remarkable how the same people who claim to support homosexual's rights and all that happy PC horseshite are so quick to go with the "you're a FAG!" epithet storm. One would almost suspect they think there is something , well, -wrong- with being gay. Know what I mean?

Speaking of which, I see you've got lots of MyBlahg trolls here tonight. There's Robbie F-the Joos McClelland, and there's Ti-guy (call him WeeWee, he hates that). If Arthur Dicko trolls too, you'll have the complete set. And not a coherent thought from the lot of them, just like always. Sound and fury, signifying nothing. Some people progress, mature, move on, some just fester.

You know what, if I were a Liberal, I'd be worried about the homophobia as well.

Zorph, I'm not "feeling bad". Nor am I intimidated. You misunderstand. Read my last post again, slowly and carefully.

I merely said you folks try to make us feel that way.

If you're such a nice guy, how come you're a Leftist? Leftists are, I have found, besides seeming "nice" sometimes, hateful people, what with their animosity towards Israel, Jews, Christians, non-Leftists, etc.

Example: Jack Layton. Seems like a fun guy with whom to have a beer or two, but he's a hater in ideology. Nasty dude when it comes to certain identifiable groups; deserves to at least lose his seat in the House.

A nice guy and a Leftist? I don't get it.

Maybe it's time to listen to YOUR conscience... Don't be like Jack Layton et al.

If you're such a nice guy, how come you're a Leftist? Leftists are, I have found, besides seeming "nice" sometimes, hateful people, what with their animosity towards Israel, Jews, Christians, non-Leftists, etc.

Who says I'm a "leftist"

Never voted for Chreten, Only voted for Martin once, Never voted for the NDP.

"Israel, Jews, Christians, non-Leftists"

Hey Sentinel, lets be clear here, I have no use for organized religion of any sort, and that includes Islam. But hey if feel the need to beg favours from a magical being, knock yourself out, I just don't think your choice of culture should have special tax exempt status.

Now you try to have a nice day in that little world of yours.

Cheers.

I laughed pretty hard when BCL got outed for his outrageous comments on Jews, and I was pretty tickled by Red Tory's outing simply because he's a pompous ass with too much time to read his thesaurus. But I'm beginning to think it has become too much of a blood sport and to what end?

Maybe to an internet thats a little more polite, where people don't feel inclined to spew such rubbish. Like Canadian Cynic threatening children online.

One would almost suspect they think there is something , well, -wrong- with being gay. Know what I mean?

You mean that wasn't a compliment, to hint at homosexual behavior?

Went to see what was on Don (I'm a Liberal Hear me Roar) Beemer's website and got this message...Sorry, the blog at centreofcanada.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.
Wonder how the BBB feels this morning about his childish Liberal ethics as their treasurer.

"We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call
free enterprise," said Cash McCall, "but when one of our citizens
show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do
our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself."
-- Cameron Hawley

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